Today I get to interview my good friend, Marshall Payne, a
fellow member of SFWA and writer of some of the quirkiest and most dazzling
short science fiction and fantasy I’ve read. Marshall’s published dozens of
short stories ranging from the bizarre to the thoughtful and wacky. Not only does Marshall write genre fiction,
he’s read a ton of it, having served for a long time as an editor and reviewer
for The Fix and Tangent Online. He’s here to tell us
about reading, writing and life . . . and also about his upcoming fantasy
novel, Petrol Queen, and his first collection, Bullet and Other Stories.
Your
published work so far has been in short fiction. How many short stories have you published?
Forty-three to date, in such markets as Aeon Speculative Fiction, Talebones, Brutarian, and two of the Triangulation
anthologies to name a few. More than half of them are science fiction, the rest
fantasy and horror. My Brutarian sale
got me into SFWA. An 800-word horror story that I wrote one Saturday evening
and sent off the next day and sold it. I got 18 cents a word for that one. If
only they all paid that well and life were always that easy. If only . . . It
took me 600 rejections to make my first pro sale. So it goes.
Many
of my visitors read and write gay male fiction.
Do any of your stories feature gay men or have a gay theme?
Yes, I have a story called “Edward’s Second Shot” in Wilde Oats. It’s a time-travel tale
about how King Edward the Second was saved from a horrible death and brought
hundreds of years in the future. Edward runs off from his caretaker, who later
finds him in a gay biker bar where he’s made many new friends. I’ll be including
it in a future collection entitled Pandering
Dwarves and Other Time-Travel Tales.
Your
first collection, Bullet and Other
Stories, just came out as an eBook. What can you tell us about that?
It’s a collection of six science fiction stories that run
the gamut of my various narrative styles. Included of course is “Bullet,” which
was published in End of an Aeon,
along with “Sausages” from Talebones,
a gonzo generation-ship piece where I wink a lot at the grand master of reality
problem stories, Philip K. Dick. “The New Elementals” is a flash piece about an
uptown girl and a downtown boy and their ill-fated romance―she’s light waves
and he’s radio waves. “Vector” features a bit of gay prison sex in an
intergalactic setting and a young male courtesan trying not to spread the demon
goddess who lives within him. It’s available on Amazon.com and Smashwords.
Tell us more about Petrol Queen. The novel
tackles serious issues, but what I found most fascinating about it is the crazy
way you mash familiar fantasy tropes with contemporary characters. Is this by design? Or did it just happen?
With Petrol Queen
I purposely set out to write a secondary-world contemporary fantasy that’s not
really urban fantasy (no vampires or werewolves). It has a gritty, industrial
setting, which I use as a backdrop to show the struggle of the have-nots of
society and the revolution they foment to overthrow the powers that be.
Instead of vampires and werewolves, I created my own
supernatural creatures. At the forefront is Corona, a half-haint caught between
life and death, trying to maintain her corporeality as she struggles to get by
as a street hustler. There’s also the highly-sexed paquoes who communicate
telepathically and are used as seers, and the sky-haints, creatures born of the
industrial smog above the city of Brotos. And I found a new twist on dragons.
Now long extinct, except for their queen, their liquefied bones and magic are
being pumped from the ground to fuel the military’s supersonic fighter aircraft.
The queen dragon J-mu lives on inside the refinery’s owner Ziane Kont, whose
daughter Lana is next in line to carry the dragon spirit and is horrified by
the thought. Petrol Queen is a dark
fantasy with sly humor and hope.
I’ll be putting Petrol
Queen out in eBook soon, along with its two sequels, Corona and Corona Rising.
You’ve chided me about not sending out my stories enough. What can I say? I’m shy.
You definitely aren’t. Tell us
your philosophy on getting your work out and getting it published.
It helps to have a lot of short fiction ready to go out,
but back when I was concentrating on short fiction I tried to keep twenty or
more stories making the rounds. Like most writers, I’d start at the top and
work my way down. I’d have long dry spells where I couldn’t sell a fire
extinguisher to a burning man. But then the pendulum would swing back and I’d
start selling like crazy. I sold eighteen stories in 2008, the year before that
only three despite subbing the same amount. The magic eventually works if you
keep rubbing the lamp.
Following up on that, eBooks: the salvation
of modern literature or the end of civilization as we know it?
I was one of those people who
swore he’d never go ebook. It’s true, eBooks are the death of civilization. They
spread mites, scurvy and cause rickets in the young and old. Ebooks will make
you go blind! Then I bought a Kindle. I don’t think I’ve picked up a dead-tree
book since, except to move it out of my way. Anyone who says they loathe eBooks
and eReaders, I ask them if they’ve really tried them? It took me one day with
my Kindle to make a believer out of me!
As far as self-publishing my own eBooks,
I’m just getting started, but I see a bright future. Sure, there’s a lot of
junk out there, but there’s also some good stuff, too. Like everything else, water
seeks its own level. The trick I think is to turn out a good product and do
everything you can to help word of mouth garner a growing readership. Also,
some of my fiction is of such a nature that traditional publishers would
probably never touch it, but I’m convinced there’s a readership out there. Ask
me again in five years, but till then I’m going to give it my best shot.
What has been the toughest criticism given
to you as an author? What has been the best compliment?
Years ago on the writer’s
workshop OWW, someone told me that I was trying too hard, trying to make my fiction
too complex. Which was a nice way of saying my prose was too purple. I think
most writers go through that. While I’m definitely not a fan of stark, overly
simple prose, I’ve grown exceedingly tired of fiction that smells of the lamp.
In my reading I’m delighted when I can find a writer who employs the perfect
metaphor that’s not strained, a narrative with the right amount of eyeball
kicks and zingers, a style that illuminates the story’s characters without
hiding them behind excessively ornate language while still being expressive.
The perfect style rides the middle between the two extremes. That’s the kind of
writer I decided I want to be.
Best compliment? That I have
uncommonly original ideas and can write snappy dialogue. I believe you
mentioned that a time or two. I hope I remembered to say, “Thank you!”
Because we’re friends, I know you have been
or still are a rock musician, writer, cat lover, Texan and like to tilt at
windmills. How have some of these
experiences shaped your fiction?
I think all my years of being a performing
musician gave me a certain confidence that bleeds over into my writing. And I
imagine all the bars I’ve played in, and strange people I’ve met there, have
found their way into my fiction. You can almost always tell a writer who hasn’t
seen much outside of the classroom, library and genteel wine-and-cheese party.
Not that I don’t value those experiences, but since I often write about the grittier
side of life, there’s nothing like having lived it. Still, I like sending a
street-wise strumpet to a soignée dinner party in my fiction. Or a refined
matronly type to a den of iniquity. Contrasting disparate American cultures is
fun to play around with. I do a lot of that in Petrol Queen, and since the setting is a secondary world, it
affords me more freedom of invention.
I’m working on another novel
series that begins with Jimmy-Don and the
Texas Hill Country Ordeal. This is more of a straight-ahead urban fantasy,
sent in San Antonio. The cast is mostly Hispanic to reflect the culture here.
Jimmy-Don Autry is the stage name of singer-songwriter Jaime Jimenez, who
claims to be the bastard son of the late Gene Autry. Jimmy-Don likes to be
fanciful with the “truth.” Much of my musician experience went into creating
his character. There’s magic, mayhem, Kafka and Johnny Cash. The first book in
the series is finished, and I hope to have it out after Petrol Queen.
If
you could have dinner with anyone, dead or alive, fictional or real, who would
it be?
Frank Zappa. The man had a great mind and a singular wit.
And it would be a chance to prove, perhaps, that I’m half as unorthodox and
idiosyncratic as he was. Maybe he could bring Captain Beefheart with him in
case things just aren’t weird enough.
[Here's a Zappa quote: “I don't care whether I'm
remembered. As a matter of fact, there's a lot of people who would like to
forget about me as soon as possible, and I'm on their side!”]
I love discovering new writers and their work, so help me expand my bookshelf. Name and tell me more about one book you recently read and loved.
Naming specific books is hard, but I will name a couple of writers who do the sort of thing I’m always on the lookout for: Michael Swanwick and Paul Di Filippo readily come to mind. I like wild, inventive ideas, a healthy amount of decadence, and an acerbic wit in fiction. These two authors almost always satisfy my off-beat craving while employing interesting characters. It always comes back to the characters, though. Any of the above fictional attributes are worthless without characters to bring them to life.
Any pets that you would like to tell us
about, share a pic?
I live with novelist Jaime Lee
Moyer and our two cats, Gilly and Morgan. Two SF/F writers, two cats. A perfect
balance.
Where can your readers stalk you?
Not in the nightclubs any more,
as I lead a quieter though no less incorrigible lifestyle. I have a blog on
LiveJournal called Marshall’s Super-Sekrit Clubhouse, where I do sundry weirdness and even the occasional
thoughtful post on writing. I have a website. I’m also on Facebook. I’m on Twitter, too, where
I’m still trying to figure out how to pin down the meaning of life in 140
characters or less…and failing.
~~~~~~~~~~~
Here’s an excerpt from “Bullet”:
Eighteen years ago I found myself on the moon,
firstborn, tits at twelve. We’d given up our view of the Pacific Ocean for a
sterile moonscape. My father was reassigned to LB9 and permitted to shuttle the
family with him: Mother, the two brats, Timothy and William, and me.
Our living quarters were tiny with no right angles—anywhere!—designed
as a psychological inverse to the monotony of lunar life. But our quarters were
still a series of dreary pentagons, where five walls could never become a home.
I remember Father going to work each day after
gulping four cups of coffee. Though I knew he was one of the test pilots
conducting the experimental velocity tests that approached near light speed, I
was unaware of the risk involved, the shortcomings of physicists and their
formulas. But my father was a special kind of man. Though he often drank too
much, and some called him arrogant, it was inevitable that he would be lead
pilot for this landmark mission. He was the finest of the fine.
~~~~~~~~~~~
Thank you, Marshall, for stopping by and sharing your work with us. You're proof that a writer's life can be both work and a heck of a lot of fun!





Great interview and great questions.
ReplyDeleteThe scenery is nice too. :)
What's life without a little scenery? :D
DeleteThanks, Jaime! And thank you, Tali, for having me! *g*
DeleteETA: This was a lot of fun!
Great interview! And I loved the snippet.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Pat. Thanks for reading. :D
ReplyDeleteAh Tali, my friend, another great interview. Very funny and insightful. I very much enjoyed meeting your friend. LOL, and his cats--seeing as I'm a cat lover myself. :)
ReplyDelete~M
Thanks, M! Glad you enjoyed it.
ReplyDeleteGreat interview! Excellent questions.
ReplyDeleteMarshall is a great writer & I'm glad I can now get his stories as one collection. Yay!
Yes, he is a great writer. He uses language in ways that surprise, illuminate and nail an image. Great stuff. :D
DeleteThanks, Maria. *g*
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